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The Reading List: “Is Israel an Apartheid State?” Student Edition

Is Israel an apartheid state? This Israeli says it is. [Columbia Spectator]

Meanwhile, a range of African-American students say that Israel is definitely not apartheid. [JPost]

Sleep, a social life or good grades: In college, you can’t have them all. [Very Demotivational]

But the creator of Dilbert thinks that you should forget academics and focus on entrepreneurship. For the record, as a former Humanities and History major, I completely disagree. [WSJ]

Donniel Hartman with a wise article connecting religious intolerance and political intolerance in the Jewish community. [Ha'aretz]

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12 Older Responses to “The Reading List: “Is Israel an Apartheid State?” Student Edition”

  1. Yakov Wolf
    April 11, 2011 at 1:43 pm #

    Other Israelis referring to Israel as Apartheid or describing Apartheid-like conditions:

    Ehud Olmert: “We face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories)”

    Ehud Barak : “”As long as in this territory west of the Jordan river there is only one political entity called Israel it is going to be either non-Jewish, or non-democratic, . . If this bloc of millions of ­Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”

    Nahum Barnea, Israeli Journalist with YNet : “Why do the people who seek to turn Israel into an apartheid state, or alternately, into a state ruled by an Arab majority deserve this reward [of Settlment expansion]? Why does everyone else have to be punished? . . .Given this reality, expanding settlements at the heart of the West Bank is a punishment for Israel, not for the Palestinians.”

    Israeli Military Historian Martin van Creveld: “What is not negligible is the demographic, social, cultural and political challenge that ruling over 2.5 million — nobody knows exactly how many — occupied Palestinians in the West Bank poses. Should Israeli rule over them continue, then the country will definitely turn into what it is already fast becoming: namely, an apartheid state that can only maintain its control by means of repressive secret police actions.”

    Journalist & Former Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem Meron Benvinisti : “The day will come when believers in this illusion will realise that “separation” is a means to oppress and dominate, and then they will mobilise to dismantle the apartheid apparatus.”

    Chair of the Geography Department at the Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Oren Yiftachel : ” The disengagement has indeed made a significant difference to the political geography of Israel/Palestine, but a close examination reveals not a crossing of the watershed toward ending Israeli colonialism in favour of a twostate solution but, rather, an Israeli policy of “oppressive consolidation,” a “politics of suspension,” and a perpetual probability of mutual violence. These have combined to create a political geographic order best described as “creeping apartheid.”

    Attorney-general of Israel from 1993 to 1996, Michael Ben-Yair: “Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one – progressive, liberal – in Israel; and the other – cruel, injurious – in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day. ”

    Boaz Okon, Retired Israeli judge and legal commentator for the daily Yedioth Ahronoth : “So is the situation in Israel. You do not have to ask where the apartheid is. These events, which are accepted with silence and indifference, together create a picture of a terrible reality.”

  2. Jeffrey C. Goldfarb
    April 11, 2011 at 5:04 pm #

    perhaps add to the reading list stories of people who exist on the border, whose lives and work challenge common sense of both sides and suffer as a consequence, such as Juliano Mer-Khamis, see http://www.deliberatelyconsidered.com/2011/04/on-the-assassination-of-juliano-mer-khamis-fighting-for-the-freedom-of-the-everyday/

  3. Abban Aziz
    April 11, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    No, Israel is not an apartheid state.

    While inequalities exist in Israel, it is not unique and in fact racial/ethnic disparities are much greater in the USA and Europe than in Israel. The apartheid analogy is designed to de-legitimize Israel’s status as a progressive state and portray its enemies – who truly practice apartheid – into passive victims.

    Notice how there is no active boycott of Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, or Egypt – in spite of their ruthless policies towards Palestinian refugees and blacks?

    Yakov Wolf, taking a series of quotes out of contexts proves nothing. Modern South Africa is still more of an apartheid than Israel ever will be. Palestinians still have a higher life expectancy and quality of life than black south africans today. LOL.

  4. Ariely
    April 12, 2011 at 3:33 am #

    The so called human rights protectors- don’t protect 21 century vales!
    They should support the following values.

    *will promote the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants;
    *will be based on the precepts of liberty, justice and peace taught by the Hebrew Prophets;
    *will uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex;
    * will guarantee full freedom of conscience, worship, education and culture;
    * will safeguard the sanctity and inviolability of the shrines and Holy Places of all religions

    Those are the defending Israel values and practice based on the independence declaration:
    Despite non stop wars, terror attacks, boycodes and dehumanization Israel has to phase for more than 65 years –Israel follows those guidlines.
    ———-
    The so called human rights protectors- don’t protect 21 century vales!
    They support movements that fight against all the values they pretend to defend.

    They are silent when Islamists are denying:
    Women equality–human rights–religious freedom–democracy

    However they are practicing:
    Kill people that condemd Islamist values-hate teaching in schools and children garden–genocide preaching in Mosques and TV—indiscriminately targeting civilians—chasing Christians-slavery in Sudan and Golf states

    And don’t blame:
    1:Muslim brotherhood speech saying:
    ‘Hitler didn’t finish the jog—The Muslims will finish the job”
    2:Hamas charter:
    The day of judgment will not come until Moslems fight killing the Jews.
    The stones and trees will say O MOSLEM, THERE IS A JEW BEHIND ME, KILL HIM
    3: “Hiding among civilians prevents armies with western values the ability to fight. We impose a new non conventional equation in wars”
    Said by Hamas leader Khalid Mash’al on Al-Jazeera.

  5. Harpo Jaeger
    April 12, 2011 at 5:38 pm #

    @Abban: Did you really just say “LOL” regarding a discussion of Palestinian life expectancy and quality of life? In point of fact, I find your comments quite informative, but would prefer that you phrased them less as a condemnation of those with whom you disagree (i.e. those claiming that Israel is an apartheid state, which, for the record, I don’t think is true) and more as a contribution to a conversation.

  6. Abban Aziz
    April 12, 2011 at 10:02 pm #

    LOL is an appropriate comment Harpo when citizens of apartheid states accuse Israel of practicing apartheid.

    If we assume human rights our universal, and then all we have to do is compare the quality of life of Palestinians (who claim native status) versus the quality of life of minorities in USA, Britain, Australia, South Africa, etc.

    Let’s look at the lowest common denominator, the Palestinians in Gaza. According to the United Nations, Gazans have an average life expectancy of 75 and a lower infant mortality rate than Turkey.

    Life Expectancy of Native Americans: 66
    Life Expectancy of aboriginals in Australia: 50
    Life expectancy in South Africa: 51

    We could break down comparisons further by looking at hate crimes per capita (highest in Britain), murder (highest in South Africa) or racist incidents overall (Australia) etc.

    Anyone who accuses Israel of being an apartheid state is not simply debased from reality, but also trivializing people who truly suffered under South African apartheid and currently suffer under Islamic/Arab apartheid.

  7. Yakov Wolf
    April 12, 2011 at 11:57 pm #

    @ Abban Aziz:

    The fact that so many prominent Israelis as listed above have made the South African Apartheid analogy in relation to Israel disproves your claim that such a claim is used to delegitimize Israel. Are you seriously claiming that former Israeli Prime Ministers, a Defense Ministers, a Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem, a judge and an attorney general all have the goal of delegitimizing Israel and undermining its existence? If you really believe that, why aren’t you marching in the streets demanding that Bibi fire Barak?

    That is, of course, altogether aside from the number of black South Africans who know Apartheid by experience who have called the comparison accurate.

    Since you brought up context, Readers can read the articles and editorials and consider the context for themselves:

    Ehud Olmert : http://www.haaretz.com/news/olmert-to-haaretz-two-state-solution-or-israel-is-done-for-1.234201
    Ehud Barak : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/03/barak-apartheid-palestine-peace
    Nehum Barnea : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4042409,00.html
    Meron Benvinisti : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/apr/26/comment
    Oren Yiftachel: http://arabworldgeographer.socsci.uva.nl/forum2005/AWG83Yiftachel.pdf
    Michael Ben-Yair: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-war-s-seventh-day-1.51513
    Boaz Okon: http://coteret.com/2010/06/23/yediots-legal-affairs-editor-on-the-emergence-of-apartheid-and-fascism-in-israel/

  8. Real Apartheid
    April 13, 2011 at 5:09 am #

    http://wikibias.com/2011/04/islamic-apartheid-and-wikipedia/

  9. Harpo Jaeger
    April 13, 2011 at 11:20 am #

    Abban, as I said, I agree with you that Israel is not an apartheid state. But I don’t wish to be so dismissive of those who believe it is. That hurts the tone of the conversation, and creates more enemies, rather than building alliances.

  10. Real Apartheid
    April 13, 2011 at 7:30 pm #

    @ Yakov Wolf

    Ehud Barak nor Olmert ever claimed the Israeli state was ever an apartheid nation. Ehud Barack was referring to the situation in the West Bank – specifically during the second intifada, and the mass arrests and curfews of Palestinian cities in times of unrest.

    Neither mentioned South Africa.

    Apartheid is very specific, racist form of government. I explained clearly how Israel is NOT an apartheid state. Just because a series of Israelis endorse the narrative somehow doesn’t make it so. That is a fallacy, known as appeal to authority.

    In order to prove Israel is an apartheid state, you have to define apartheid and then evaluate Israel’s government and policies.

    You can’t do this. Listing a string of biased guardian editorials, a mouthpiece of the Palestinian Authority (see CIFwatch) and other biased media proves jack squat.

    @ Harpo

    Time to call a spade a spade. You live in America, so it is easy to sit in your ivory tower and be a nice little Jew that listens to everyone.

    But in Israel people’s lives are at stake. Those who say outrageous things and try to trivialize individuals who suffer under apartheid must be whipped and criticized.

    I don’t value their opinions, but I have no problem debunking what they say.

  11. Harpo Jaeger
    April 14, 2011 at 12:04 am #

    @Real Apartheid:
    You live in America, so it is easy to sit in your ivory tower and be a nice little Jew that listens to everyone.
    Seriously, If I had a nickel for every time someone said something condescending to me about how, since I live in America, I’m too privileged to make judgments about Israel. I’m well aware of my privilege. I choose to use it to start interesting conversations and learn more about very complicated issues. The kind of tone you’re taking is completely antithetical to both of those things. Keep in mind that I agree with you, and yet you’ve still managed to make an enemy of me in this conversation. That on its own speaks to the effectiveness of your method.
    Furthermore, most people who call Israel an apartheid state don’t do so to trivialize apartheid – they do it because they believe that Israel fits an extremely rigorous definition. Again, I don’t agree with them, but in my experience, trivializing apartheid is the last thing on their mind.

  12. Real Apartheid
    April 14, 2011 at 12:35 am #

    “Furthermore, most people who call Israel an apartheid state don’t do so to trivialize apartheid – they do it because they believe that Israel fits an extremely rigorous definition. Again, I don’t agree with them, but in my experience, trivializing apartheid is the last thing on their mind.”

    Really? Or do they just brand Israel as an apartheid to discredit its supporters and shame anyone who associates with the nation as was the case with South Africa? It is a dirty propaganda tactic, untrue, false, and shouldn’t be treated like a legitimate political philosophy.

    “If I had a nickel for every time someone said something condescending to me about how, since I live in America, I’m too privileged to make judgments about Israel. I’m well aware of my privilege.”

    Yes, you don’t live in Israel – yet pretend to be a citizen. Just because you’re Jewish doesn’t make you king of the Jews. It is racist to assume “as you a Jew” your views somehow have more weight than others.

    I’m not Jewish and I seem to know more about the Jewish state than you.

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