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  1. Ari
    May 25 - 11:43 am

    You are conflating the selling of nuclear weapons with the selling of military technology. The title of this article is inappropriate and misleading, since their is no indication that Israel actually tried to sell nuclear weapons (only a mention by the author that “if South Africa had wished, nuclear warheads.”). A better title would be something like “Israel Sold $10 billion of military technology to South Africa despite weapons embargo” or something to that effect. If there is actual evidence that Israel indeed attempted or actually sold nuclear weapons, then that is worth expounding on in detail.

  2. Sam Melamed
    May 25 - 12:39 pm

    According to the evidence (a signed document by both Shimon Peres and PK Botha), Israel offered South Africa three nuclear warheads. Sorry I didn’t expound on that, but if you’d read the linked article, you’d see that that was the case.

  3. Sam Melamed
    May 25 - 12:40 pm

    I’m changing the title to Israel OFFERED Nuclear Arms To Apartheid South Africa.

  4. Ari
    May 25 - 5:49 pm

    Here’s an interesting interview with Sasha Polakow-Suransky.on AlJazeera about this topic:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVIWvnsUzNQ

    as well as:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAs7dI1AN0M

    in the interview he infers that Shimon Peres made some kind of offer of nuclear warheads by saying that the payloads “come in three sizes” (one of those sizes being the ‘nuclear’ size) but that this offer was probably done without the approval of the other heads of government. If the Israeli government was indeed shipping nuclear arms to South Africa, I’d be suportive of your point, but: 1) The documents don’t show a direct offer, only an indication that the warheads come in ‘three sizes’ 2) No nuclear weapons were actually sold (that’s known), 3) Such a sales would require the approval of other members of the government, and nothing shows that this is actually so.

    So given this, I disagree with your conclusion about how this “undermines everything the Jewish state claims to stand for in the way of democracy, peace, and morals”. The documents only represent private talks between a few parties, not real actions between governments.

  5. Linnell Guzman
    May 26 - 4:00 pm

    You are conflating the selling of nuclear weapons with the selling of military technology. The title of this article is inappropriate and misleading, since their is no indication that Israel actually tried to sell nuclear weapons (only a mention by the author that “if South Africa had wished, nuclear warheads.”). A better title would be something like “Israel Sold $10 billion of military technology to South Africa despite weapons embargo” or something to that effect. If there is actual evidence that Israel indeed attempted or actually sold nuclear weapons, then that is worth expounding on in detail.
    +1

  6. Mayer Jacobovits
    May 29 - 11:31 am

    After reviewing the Guardian, NY Times and the Al Jazeera interview, it is clear there is no clear or hard evidence that Peres let alone Israel offered nuclear weapons for sale.

    Therefore the title which is similar to the one in the Guardian is misleading. The British press is known for its anti-Israel positions. Why does New Voices have to copy that?

    Furthermore, why use a 35 year old story to question Israel’s “shining beacon of democracy “. Even if true, which I do not believe it is, it is anothyer excuse to bash/deligitimize Israel.

    It is very healthy for a democracy to be questioned, criticized and have malfeasances exposed, and we all know that it is happening even as we speak in Israel. This latest tendency in New Voices to assume the dialog of Israel’s enemies is worrying.

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