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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nassau County has many Orthodox Jewish communities besides the Five Towns.  Smaller Jewish communities in Nassau County are in Oceanside, Long Beach, and Plainview.  Even Suffolk County has some Orthodox Jewish life in East Northport but not as much as Nassau County.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nassau County has many Orthodox Jewish communities besides the Five Towns.  Smaller Jewish communities in Nassau County are in Oceanside, Long Beach, and Plainview.  Even Suffolk County has some Orthodox Jewish life in East Northport but not as much as Nassau County.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ebin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ebin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For information on the Stony Brook Hebrew Congregation (Orthodox), see our web page:
stonybrookhc.com  or contact me at: 631 751-3971

With best wishes,
David Ebin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For information on the Stony Brook Hebrew Congregation (Orthodox), see our web page:<br />
stonybrookhc.com  or contact me at: 631 751-3971</p>
<p>With best wishes,<br />
David Ebin</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, This is very interesting information! I am a newlywed my husband is from a Sephardi community in Brooklyn and I an from out east not to far from stony brook. I was completely unaware there was a orthodox community even a small one in stony brook. We are now looking for a place to live that we would like start our life.. we are now living in rego park which has a good Jewish community but we find it a bit harder to brake into and intimidating as most are not of ether of our cultures. Is there any way you can email me a list of the temples in fives towns as well as the one in stoney brook? I want to go around and do a bit more research before I decide to rent. We are on the more modern orthedox side of things, but we do want to send out kids to yashiva. Thank you for this bit of information it was very interesting to read!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, This is very interesting information! I am a newlywed my husband is from a Sephardi community in Brooklyn and I an from out east not to far from stony brook. I was completely unaware there was a orthodox community even a small one in stony brook. We are now looking for a place to live that we would like start our life.. we are now living in rego park which has a good Jewish community but we find it a bit harder to brake into and intimidating as most are not of ether of our cultures. Is there any way you can email me a list of the temples in fives towns as well as the one in stoney brook? I want to go around and do a bit more research before I decide to rent. We are on the more modern orthedox side of things, but we do want to send out kids to yashiva. Thank you for this bit of information it was very interesting to read!</p>
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		<title>By: hotyuew</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotyuew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zashkaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zashkaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice site. go to my favorites. TNx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site. go to my favorites. TNx</p>
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		<title>By: CaseyFronczek</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaseyFronczek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw that Casey Fronczek is offering fishing trips now down in south Florida.  Does anybody have any input on these trips or has anyone been on one of these trips before?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that Casey Fronczek is offering fishing trips now down in south Florida.  Does anybody have any input on these trips or has anyone been on one of these trips before?</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I enjoyed your article, I disagree (or maybe misunderstand) your main point. I don&#039;t think that it is necessary to be in a less Jewish bigger community in order to &quot;feel Jewish,&quot; mainly because I don&#039;t think that spiritual fulfillment needs to come from either sacrifice or &quot;standing out.&quot;  Having a strong Orthodox community is very important for the growth not only of the community but also of the individuals there.  It reinforces the values that you want your kids to grow up with, and there&#039;s a much smaller threat of your children being tempted to throw out those values.  I&#039;ll agree with you that in a more diverse environment, it is easier to feel more proud to be Jewish and to cherish what you believe in more, but it is also easier to get caught up in your surroundings and have a deep spiritual crisis.  Of course, that diversity will be very productive to many individuals, but that risk is not something that you should place on the masses.

But it&#039;s not just a matter of risk.  A more homogenous community where there is a constant striving among everyone for a certain ideal adds much more meaning to each individual&#039;s endeavour.  For example, in Israel, where everyone is Jewish, and where many communities are also very homogenous, the fact that those values permeate the streets of the community is a very positive thing.  I don&#039;t see why the same argument shouldn&#039;t apply for an area like the 5 Towns or Teaneck as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I enjoyed your article, I disagree (or maybe misunderstand) your main point. I don&#8217;t think that it is necessary to be in a less Jewish bigger community in order to &#8220;feel Jewish,&#8221; mainly because I don&#8217;t think that spiritual fulfillment needs to come from either sacrifice or &#8220;standing out.&#8221;  Having a strong Orthodox community is very important for the growth not only of the community but also of the individuals there.  It reinforces the values that you want your kids to grow up with, and there&#8217;s a much smaller threat of your children being tempted to throw out those values.  I&#8217;ll agree with you that in a more diverse environment, it is easier to feel more proud to be Jewish and to cherish what you believe in more, but it is also easier to get caught up in your surroundings and have a deep spiritual crisis.  Of course, that diversity will be very productive to many individuals, but that risk is not something that you should place on the masses.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not just a matter of risk.  A more homogenous community where there is a constant striving among everyone for a certain ideal adds much more meaning to each individual&#8217;s endeavour.  For example, in Israel, where everyone is Jewish, and where many communities are also very homogenous, the fact that those values permeate the streets of the community is a very positive thing.  I don&#8217;t see why the same argument shouldn&#8217;t apply for an area like the 5 Towns or Teaneck as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Bietz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Bietz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this interesting discussion. I think we must be careful not to create one model of ideal Jewish living. The quality of one&#039;s Jewish life is a personal issue. Community is important - and meaningul realtinships can be built in any community. If an individual or a family oprts to live in a strictly Orthodox xcommunity - there is no doubt numerous opportunities for personal and spiritual growth. The same can be said for a more heterogenous community. We need to avoic standing in judgement about the quality of another Jew&#039;s lifestyle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this interesting discussion. I think we must be careful not to create one model of ideal Jewish living. The quality of one&#8217;s Jewish life is a personal issue. Community is important &#8211; and meaningul realtinships can be built in any community. If an individual or a family oprts to live in a strictly Orthodox xcommunity &#8211; there is no doubt numerous opportunities for personal and spiritual growth. The same can be said for a more heterogenous community. We need to avoic standing in judgement about the quality of another Jew&#8217;s lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post.  I completely agree with you - while there was quite a strong Orthodox presence in the community where I was raised, it was also a very diverse community where I interacted with all sorts of Jews.  The community was richer for it.  While having a mivka, a decent school, and kosher food availability is crucial for an Orthodox community, that&#039;s about it.  You and your kids don&#039;t only have to be friends with other Orthodox Jews.  You don&#039;t need lots of kosher restaurants.  And (in my experience) small, heimish synagogues are a LOT more pleasant to be a part of than massive, impersonal, 400-family behemoths.

You should really read this relevant article in the Jewish Week by Gary Rosenblatt that just got posted today: http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c52_a16104/Editorial__Opinion/Gary_Rosenblatt.html 
Here&#039;s a great paragraph that really clinches it for me: &quot;Rabbi Brander said that moving to Teaneck has, on one level, been a kind of spiritual exile for him personally. That community, a bastion of Modern Orthodoxy in the U.S., is widely admired for its many well-attended synagogues, Torah learning and highly involved Zionist activities. But the rabbi observed a downside of its homogeneous nature, noting that few if any of the local shuls, accustomed to like-minded congregants, offer beginnersâ€™ services for novice worshippers. There are no boxes of kippot for visitors, he said, no posters about the plight of Darfur in the halls. His critique was leveled at similar Modern Orthodox enclaves that tend toward complacency when it comes to wider interaction.  &quot;Our community and our children are poorer&quot; for that lack of diversity, he said, &quot;and our Orthodox community is poorer when it retreats and withdraws&quot; from engagement with other Jews.&quot;

Being a part of a community like Atlanta, Houston, or even Stony Brook probably provides a much richer, more meaningful Jewish life than living in Teaneck or the Five Towns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post.  I completely agree with you &#8211; while there was quite a strong Orthodox presence in the community where I was raised, it was also a very diverse community where I interacted with all sorts of Jews.  The community was richer for it.  While having a mivka, a decent school, and kosher food availability is crucial for an Orthodox community, that&#8217;s about it.  You and your kids don&#8217;t only have to be friends with other Orthodox Jews.  You don&#8217;t need lots of kosher restaurants.  And (in my experience) small, heimish synagogues are a LOT more pleasant to be a part of than massive, impersonal, 400-family behemoths.</p>
<p>You should really read this relevant article in the Jewish Week by Gary Rosenblatt that just got posted today: <a href="http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c52_a16104/Editorial__Opinion/Gary_Rosenblatt.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c52_a16104/Editorial__Opinion/Gary_Rosenblatt.html</a><br />
Here&#8217;s a great paragraph that really clinches it for me: &#8220;Rabbi Brander said that moving to Teaneck has, on one level, been a kind of spiritual exile for him personally. That community, a bastion of Modern Orthodoxy in the U.S., is widely admired for its many well-attended synagogues, Torah learning and highly involved Zionist activities. But the rabbi observed a downside of its homogeneous nature, noting that few if any of the local shuls, accustomed to like-minded congregants, offer beginnersâ€™ services for novice worshippers. There are no boxes of kippot for visitors, he said, no posters about the plight of Darfur in the halls. His critique was leveled at similar Modern Orthodox enclaves that tend toward complacency when it comes to wider interaction.  &#8220;Our community and our children are poorer&#8221; for that lack of diversity, he said, &#8220;and our Orthodox community is poorer when it retreats and withdraws&#8221; from engagement with other Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being a part of a community like Atlanta, Houston, or even Stony Brook probably provides a much richer, more meaningful Jewish life than living in Teaneck or the Five Towns.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Magazine). Her first post, &#8220;Orthodox Judaism is movingâ€“where?&#8221;, can be found here: http://blog.newvoices.org/?p=527. Stay tuned for more posts from Rebecca on NewVoices and possibly the JBC Blog!    Comments [...] ]]></description>
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